Village of Baldwinsville
Planning Board Meeting Minutes
Tuesday, December 19, 2017 7:30 P.M.
                                                    
Approved January 23, 2018
PRESENT:	Carl Pelcher, Chairman
Nate Collins
Nicole Schlater
Mace Markham 
Mike Mazoway
Terri King 
Mr. Scherfling was unable to attend this evening's meeting.
ALSO PRESENT: Steve Darcangelo, Village Engineer
                           Gregg Humphrey, Code Enforcement Officer
		      Jamie Sutphen, Village Attorney 	
                           Mary Augustus, Board Secretary

GUESTS:	    Ed Anker - North West Fire District
                        Jeff Budrow - Weston & Sampson
    Rebecca Wasielewski - North West Fire District
    Joe Saracani - previous Mayor
    Dick Clark - Mayor 
    Gary Peterson – PB alternate
    Penney Garcia – McBride’s Bottle & Can Return

Chairman Pelcher introduced Mr. Gary Peterson as a new member to the Planning Board.

Mr. Joe Saracani thanked Mr. Pelcher for his years of service and dedication as a member of the Planning Board and always having the Village of Baldwinsville best interest first and foremost. 

Motion by Mr. Mazoway to approve minutes from October 24, 2017 second by Mr. Collins as submitted.
Motion carried 6:0
117 Oswego Street-North West Fire District-site plan

Mr. Budrow from Weston & Sampson, North-West District's engineer firm, Mr. Ed Anker is the architect designing the fire station and Ms. Wasielewski is the North-West Fire District representative.  They were present tonight to review the revised site plan with the Board. 

Mr. Pelcher explained that normally the board encourages shared parking, but this is an unusual situation.  When there is a fire the parking lot will fill up fast.  Mr. Pelcher addressed Ms. Garcia owner of McBrides Bottle & Can Return located in the same mall area as the fire department will be.  Ms. Garcia has 11 parking space with 2 that are handicap.  And, there is 

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10 spaces for first responders, all in the same local area.  Mr. Pelcher stated that parking issues are normally between landlords and tenants.  Mr. Pelcher asked if signage could be installed to guarantee the 11-parking spaces for retail use.  Mr. Budrow agreed having the signs would be a good idea for both retail and first responders.  

Mr. Darcangelo questioned Mr. Budrow, how would this shared parking agreement work to benefit the fire department. Example, if a restaurant moved into the mall and its customers used all the parking spaces and the first responders had nowhere to park at the time of a fire.  Mr. Darcangelo suggested the fire department discuss this issue with Mr. Muraco.  Mr. Darcangelo feels in the best interest of the Fire Dept. they should have a defined parking agreement.  Ms. Sutphen did clarify that the final parking agreement would have to be part of the site plan approval.  

Mr. Pelcher stated the designated route for the first responders in the rear of the building will be for commercial vehicles also.  Mr. Pelcher would like that marked as a “one way”.

Ms. Garcia, owner of the bottle redemption center has concerns regarding the first responder’s entrance in the rear to the mall.  She has 3 tractor trailers a week to load, they use the back entrance. She stated there is barely enough room for the truck, no less first responders driving through the same area. Ms. Garcia added that the business next to her, Self-Direct has a day program for adult with medical issues.  Self-Direct uses the rear of the building to have individuals dropped off and picked-up from their daily program.   Ms. Garcia sees this as being a concern also for the first responder’s using the same road way, she feels it will be very congested in the rear of the building.  

Mr. Darcangelo stated that the County will not permit a sewer leaving a private entity emptying into another private entity.  He continued, the sewer easement in an issue for the County to determine. Mr. Darcangelo just wanted to remind the Fire Dept. if the mall was to ever close or the power was shut off there would be no sewer.

Mr. Pelcher wanted to discuss the lighting situation that North-West Fire District had proposed on their site plan.  Mr. Budrow stated they are planning the installation of new poles with LED heads throughout the parking area and more wall packs on the buildings.  

The fire department is interested in installing a message board at the entrance of Oswego Street. But, after much discussion it was determined the fire department would unlikely be able to install a message board for they do not own enough property at that location.  There was a decision to take the sign off the table.

Mr. Markham asked where the warning signal the fire department talked about would be installed.  Mr. Budrow explained that would have to be in DOT right-of-way.  The DOT would set up poles in their right-of-way on opposite sides of the road way, string a flashing yellow light.  This light would be activated manually by the fire department upon responding to a fire.   DOT would own and maintain the warning light.

Mr. Humphrey stated that the Village has not received a copy of the sub-division from the County.  The county has updated its files showing the sub-division on this parcel.  Ms. Sutphen stated the recorded sub-division would have to be filed with the final site plan before approval.  

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Erosion and sediment control was discussed.  Mr. Budrow stated it will be standard and an E & S sheet will be done prior to breaking ground. 
Items for further discussion are:	
•	Parking issues
•	Rear entry

Ms. Garcia concern is the loss of business due to lack of parking for her customers once the fire department comes into the mall.  She would like to see a speed limit posted through the parking lot because of children and pedestrians walking in that area.  Mr. Budrow explained that not every first responder will be using the rear driveway, many will respond to a fire using the Oswego Street entrance.   
Mr. Darcangelo stated this is private property and the Village police will not be in control of this area.
Mr. Pelcher clarified the areas that should be mark clearly 
•	Entrance from Smokey Hollow - “Delivery and Fire Department Only”
•	South side of the building and entrance – “Do Not Enter”
•	Sign for Public Parking
•	Signs for First Responders
Motion by Mr. Mazoway to change the meeting date from December 25, 2018 to December 18, 2018 second by Mr. Pelcher. (Submission date will be December 4, 2018)
                                              Motion carried 6:0
This evening is Mr. Pelcher last night on the Planning Board.  He would like to review a few items left uncompleted.
1.	 Fix the bounders on the “4 Corner Over-lay” (9 & 11 Syracuse Street)
2.	Rename the Village Square Overlay to Baldwin Canal Square
3.	Site Plan approvals in the Over-lays, “limited scope site plan” in these areas. Projects that do not require the 5 standard requirements for a full site plan
4.	Lock Street – Mr. Scherfling will now be the Planning Board Rep for the Lock Street project, as Mr. Pelcher has been in the past.  Mr. Pelcher has concerns regarding the project, items that have not been addressed, for example: what was on the PPD, the board was not given the color schemes. As time goes by, agreements are forgotten.  

O’Reilly’s will request an extension at next month’s meeting.  

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Mr. Markham wanted to thank Mr. Pelcher for asking him to be on the Planning Board, he has enjoyed this time and has learned a lot. 
Motion by Ms. King to adjourn the meeting at 8:37 p.m. second by Mr. Collin.
 The next meeting is scheduled for Tuesday, January 23, 2018
Respectfully Submitted,
Mary E. Augustus, 
Planning Board Secretary  

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